In San Diego, CA in 1989, Pall Jenkins (ex-Dark Sarcasm) formed his second band, Plum Daisy, with Lane Miller — later of Corrugated and The And/Ors — and former Neighborhood Watch/future Pinback members Armistead “Zach” Smith, and Tom Zinser. Plum Daisy was a major departure from hardcore; it was more melodic and a little funky. After three years, Lane Miller left the band, and in 1992 the remaining members formed Three Mile Pilot.